12-02-2015 Inner Circle

12-02-2015 Inner Circle

Greetings Turbo Regal Inner Circle Members 12-02-2015 -


The answer for the Thanksgiving Day M&Ms Contest. There were 606 M&Ms in the Route 66 DVD metal tin. I was surprised at the number of guesses that put the count at over 1,000 M&Ms in that shallow 2-disc DVD tin!

Taking First Place with a guess of 567 was Frank Seufert. Frank hails from British Columbia, Canada and has been a customer of ours since the early 1990s.

Taking Second Place with a guess of 508 was Darren Kemery from Newark, Ohio. Darren has owned a Limited Turbo Regal since new. This is the second time he has come in second in one of our M&M contests!

Congrats to both winners and thanks to all those that participated.

Winners will be mailed their prizes this week.

Our plan is to do another M&M contest at the start of the New Year.


I recently read an article on the internet entitled, “Cars Suffering Worse Resale Value After 3 Years.” It also said which cars hold the most value after 3 years.

As one can probably guess, the Toyota had the most models that retain the highest value after 3 years. The worse investment you could make is the two-seater Smart car. At best, it retains about 32% of its value after 3 years. So, while you may be saving gas at the pump, you’re losing it on the value! Not to mention having friends laugh at you!

What surprised me was that the Dodge Challenger retains 62% of its investment, putting it ahead of the Mustang and Camaro. Another vehicle that surprised me was the Honda Ridgeline. It holds almost 63% of its original retail price after 3 years.


I just realized that I have saved in my desk several N.A.D.A. Office Used Car Guides, including one for April 1990, which would basically be 3 years after the 1987 models.

Even back then when you compare a 1987 Grand National to a 1987 Monte Carlo SS and a 1987 Oldsmobile 442, the average retail prices puts the value higher on the 1987 Grand National. The difference is huge when you compare it to the 1987 Corvette in 1990 resale values.

Using the base M.S.R.P. for each model, here are the figures.

The Grand National M.S.R.P. was $15,136: after 3 years the average retail was still $13,325. It dropped in value less than $2,000.

The 1987 Monte Carlo SS M.S.R.P. was $13,463: after 3 years the average retail had dropped to $9,825. It dropped in value of less than $3700.

The Oldsmobile 442 M.S.R.P. $14,706: after 3 years the average retail dropped to $9,850. It dropped in value of less than $4,800.

Perhaps even worse were the numbers for the 1987 Corvette hatchback. The M.S.R.P. for the 1987 Corvette hatchback was $27,999. (You could almost buy two Grand Nationals for that price). 3 years later you would be lucky to see $19,550. You would have lost an average of over $8,000.

I am sure one of the contributing factors back then was the demand for the Grand National, especially in light of all the magazine articles. Several articles promoted the sinister look and the impressive quarter-mile times.

In all my car dealings, I can recall only having bought and sold 1 Monte Carlo SS that I took in on trade. It was a hardtop. I also did buy 1 super mint Oldsmobile 442 hardtop that had 12,000 miles on it, and I sold it for $12,000. That car was show quality. I bought it because it was less than 5 miles from our house and the seller was anxious to purchase a Ram Air GTO.

For any Yugo owners out there, here are the numbers for the Yugo hatchback. The M.S.R.P. was $3990. At the 3-year mark $1400 was the average retail. Quick math tells me you lost over 60%, not to mention the fact you bought a terrible car to start with!

N.A.D.A. also published an Appraisal Guide for the older car models 3 times a year. I will get into this probably in next week’s Inner Circle. I have a 2001 copy that covers the 1982 thru 1993 models. I also have their 2003 issue entitled, “Classic, Collectible and Special Interest Car Appraisal Guide.”

PHOTO 1 - The photo on the left shows the cover of the April 1990 edition of the N.A.D.A. Eastern Edition of the Official Used Car Guide. I got my figures from this Guide. The photo on the right shows the actual 1987 Buick Regal pages.


This is more from my archives. I have several factory Buick black and white photos from the actual Buick Press Kits. The earliest one I have shows the 1980 Buick Regal Sports Coupe, a model designation Buick used prior to introducing the T-Type package on their 1983 models. I also have one showing the 1982 Buick Regal Sport Coupes.

PHOTO 2 - Shows first the 1980 Buick Sports Coupe and the second photo shows 2 views of the 1982 Buick Sports Coupe. Years ago I had a really nice 1978 Buick Limited model that had the V8 engine in it. These early models where quite sharp looking. They would make a great starting platform for either a potent V8 or the 3.8 SFI intercooled engine.

The introduction of the 1983 Buick lineup introduced the T-Type label for the first time. Buick used that T-Type definition across the board on 5 different Buick models, including the Regal models. That T-Type designation was used on 5 different Buick models in 1983. The 2 that probably get the most notice would be the Regal and the Riviera. Both were turbo charged versions. It’s unfortunate, but you seldom ever see any of these T-Type models today.

PHOTO 3 - This photo shows the 1983 Buick Regal T-Type. It would not be until the 1984 model year when the Grand National would emerge in decent production numbers and start to capture the interest of the public.

PHOTO 4 - This very unusual factory photo shows 3 pictures. The top is the 1984 Grand National their Buick Special Products Mobil Test Facility, which appears to be built on a Chevy van. The lower left shows the Turbo Buick powerplant engine. The lower right appears to be a guy working at a computer in the truck.

More from our archives next week!


Every year carmakers come out with new options for their product line. In most cases, these new options are great, especially things like heated seats for us old folks.

One feature, which makes little sense to me, is having keyless ignition. In recent years, these have become more common. Already, in some cases, owners have forgotten to turn off their ignition. A real danger if they parked in a garage attached to a house. The results can be death to the home occupants. Unfortunately, this has already happened.

One feature that annoys me and I am sure others is the battery operated tire monitors. The batteries fail after a few years, triggering a light on your dashboard. You know that as soon as 1 tire monitor fails, it’s only a matter of time before the others do too. I have lost count on the number of them I have replaced in several of my vehicles.

The ABS light and service engine light sometimes can be on and sometimes they might not turn on for days.

Don’t get me wrong, I am all for improvements and progress, but some of the new features may turn out to not be a good thing as the vehicle ages.


Complete pre-mounted GNX dash for sale. All of the cutting, fitting and alignment work is complete, just wire the dash and install the entire unit.

Kit Includes:
Applique with correct color indicators
Metal mounting plate
Plastic gauge bezel
Stock pre-cut cluster harness
Stock dash bezel (pre-cut with plastic gauge bezel attached)
New Stewart Warner speedometer with upper speedometer cable
New Stewart Warner tachometer
New Stewart Warner oil pressure gauge with sending unit
New Stewart Warner water temperature gauge with sending unit
New Stewart Warner fuel gauge
New Stewart Warner vacuum/ boost gauge
Plug-and-play harness

$2,250 plus shipping

This one was hand built by a good friend of ours who owns 3 Grand Nationals and has built several of these.

It comes with stock bezel already pre-cut so you do not have to cut your dash bezel. This kit eliminates any possible issues of trial and error since they have built several of these.

Buyer would have to inform us which dash is currently in the car - either digital or analog.

If interested, email me direct - denniskirban@yahoo.com - I can provide photos.


Below is a complete listing of our 2015 Christmas Specials.

Because they have a special part number, you must call our office to order any of these 10 Christmas Specials.

We have extended the sale date until 4 pm, Wednesday, December 30th, 2015. In some cases, depending on when you order, you may not receive it in time for Christmas so plan ahead.

We have included several of our popular sellers, including one of the vacuum brake systems, Scanmaster, and the Pypes Exhaust System.

Be sure to note shipping is additional, except it is included in the Pypes Exhaust System.


#7640 - Multi-Function MINI Jump Starter - Model U3-M -Jump Starting / Digital Products / LED Lighting $74.95

CHRISTMAS SPECIAL #8559 - TOTAL VALUE - $279.90 SPECIAL PRICE $239.95 Save $39.95
#6974 - 1984-1987 Buick Turbo Regal - Factory-Style Body Mount Bolts (12) Kit $29.95 / kit
#7305 - 1982-1987 Buick Regal (All Models) - Reproduction Body Mount Bushings/Cushions (22) Kit $249.95

CHRISTMAS SPECIAL #8560 - TOTAL VALUE - $93.85 SPECIAL PRICE $72.95 Save $20.90
#7170 - TWO 1982-1987 Buick G-Body - Window Rattle Elimination Kit -
NOTE - Each kit does one door - $36.95 each = $73.90
#6739 - “How to Eliminate Window Rattles and Wind Noise” Book by Pete Serio - $19.95

#6949 - TWO 1984-1987 Regal (all models including Turbo) - NEW Power Window Motor Kit -
NOTE - Each kit does one door - $34.95 each = $69.90

#6996 - 1986-1987 Turbo Regal - PYPES PERFORMANCE (Non-Polished Stainless Steel) Dual Exhaust System $399.95* (*includes UPS shipping within the 48 contiguous states)

CHRISTMAS SPECIAL #8563 - TOTAL VALUE - $73.85 SPECIAL PRICE $52.95 Save $20.90
#7660 - 1986-1988 G-Body All Models (including Buick Turbo Regal) - Third Brake Light LED Panel - $49.95
#7661 - 1984-1988 GM G-Body (Inc Turbo Regal) - Aftermarket LED Interior Light Panel - $10.95
#7663 - 1984-1988 GM G-Body (Inc Turbo Regal) - Aftermarket LED Under-the-Dash Interior Lights Bulbs (3) Set - $12.95

CHRISTMAS SPECIAL #8564 - TOTAL VALUE - $279.95 SPECIAL PRICE $249.95 Save $29.95
#6783 - 1986-1987 Turbo Regal - Scanmaster 2.1 - Diagnostic Tool - $249.95
#7496 - Scanmaster Mounting Bracket for any Buick Turbo Regal Steering Column - $29.95

CHRISTMAS SPECIAL #8565 - TOTAL VALUE - $389.95 SPECIAL PRICE $349.95 Save $40
#7625 - 1985-1987 Buick Turbo Regal - Conversion Vacuum Brake Booster Kit with Vacuum Brake Pedal - $389.95

CHRISTMAS  SPECIAL #8566 - TOTAL VALUE - $579.95 SPECIAL PRICE $544.95 Save $35
#7440 - 1984-1987 Buick Regal (All Models) - Reproduction GM-style FRONT & REAR Bumper Filler Panels (4) Set - $579.95

CHRISTMAS  SPECIAL #8557 - TOTAL VALUE - $99.50 SPECIAL PRICE $69.95 Save $29.55
#7177 - ZDDPlus™ - 10 bottles - @$9.95 = $99.50

#7641 - 4-IN-1 Charging Cord with Micro USB Connector - $12.95
#7184 - “KIRBAN 2007 Reunion and Birthday Bash” DVD - $2.95

For each Christmas special order you place you will also receive absolutely FREE our part #7641 Four in one charging cord with Micro USB connector and part #7184 “Kirban 2007 Reunion and Birthday Bash” DVD. This is a $15.90 value.

These CHRISTMAS SPECIALS are available November 18th through Thursday, December 30th, 2015, 4 pm. We will make every effort to fill orders in time for delivery for Christmas. However, depending on demand, some items may not be in stock as we receive orders closer to the deadline. ORDER EARLY to be sure to have items in time. Unfortunately you CANNOT order these Christmas Specials through our website.

To receive the discount, you MUST call our office with your order - 215-766-1611 x 0.

NOTE - Shipping is additional (except for part #8562.) Prices and availability subject to change without notice. These discounts CANNOT be combined with other offers or Package Deals. Each order will receive TWO Bonus items while supplies last.

If you need additional information or would like to see photos on any items, check out the part numbers on our website - www.kirbanperformance.com

Here is a link to these Christmas Specials on our website:


A good customer of ours has a set of original GNX wheels for sale. This is a matched set of 4 ORIGINAL wheels. The price for the full set is $5,000. Email me personally - denniskirban@yahoo.com - for more details.


We have 1 unique item now in the works. It’s being produced by Spoolfool exclusively for our company.

We have also been in conversation with another company about something that we hope to be able to make happen. Both of these projects will work with any year Turbo Regal.

Watch for updates.


We had our son Darrell make up a sample bracket and template so these new power antennas will bolt into the 1984-1987 Turbo Regals, like the originals.

He installed one in a Grand National that he had painted, and it used this new bracket.

These new power antennas have a manufacturer’s One-year Warranty.

Antennas are actually made for another GM car. They use the same screw-in bezel that sits on the top of the fender, so you can use the original bezel. The 3-wire lead and plug is identical to the original. The new bracket will be bolted to the new antenna. A rubber boot will also come with this new power antenna to protect the motor from the elements.

We expect to have these new power antennas ready to ship before the end of November. If you place your order in advance now, the sale price is $179.95 plus $12 shipping. The retail price once they are available will be $199.95 plus shipping. We would not charge your credit card until we are able to ship the power antenna to you.

This power antenna is not on our website, so you have to call and talk to Christina to get on the list if you want one - 215-766-1611 x 0. By ordering now you save $20. This also gives us a good idea on how many power antennas we need to have initially. We should have production of these shortly.


We just got 3 more of the refurbished steering shafts in stock, our part #7574 Upgraded Used Lower Steering Shaft. Don't delay if you want one. If you want one, email me - denniskirban@yahoo.com

Here is a link to this steering shaft on our website. http://www.kirbanperformance.com/product/44150/UPGRADED+REFURBISHED+USED+LOWER+STEERING+SHAFT+%237574.html


For the first time in years, we now have Rebuilt Powermaster Brake Units in stock, Part #7021. Units are always in demand, so if you need one, call our office 215-766-1611 x 0.

Here is a link to the Powermaster on our website:


We just got in 2 of these TR-6 High Tech Ignition Systems from Bob Bailey, our part #7442 TR-6 High Tech Ignition System or #7443 TR-6 High Tech Ignition System and Custom-Cut High-Performance Grey Plug Wires. We have 2 left.

Here is a link to these parts on our website:


Currently we are overstocked with our fiberglass front and rear bumpers. Part #1507 is the front bumper and #1532 is the rear bumper. The retail is normally $190 each. However, if you purchase both the front and rear at the same time, your cost would be $365. You would save $15 by purchasing both. These are for off road use only.


Here is the information on our credits for cores.

We currently need original good 1986-1987 AC Delco mass air flow sensors. We allow $25 credit for each core that can be rebuilt. Credit will not be issued until we get your unit back from Cardone showing it was able to be rebuilt. Recent cores have shown that some of them are simply not able to be rebuilt any more.

TURBO CORES must be the 1986-1987 Turbo Regal stock ones. They must be complete. We will issue you a $100 Letter of Credit for each acceptable core.

If you ship to us, the post office is the cheapest method. Pack the item(s) with a note with your name, address and phone number
MAIL - Ship to Address -

PO BOX 1199


If you need technical information, it’s best to email - sales@kirbanperformance.com rather than call us.

We will do our best to answer any technical questions within 24 hours.


From time to time, whenever we spot an unusual or an exceptional car or truck for sale, or one we have for sale, we will put a blurb in our weekly Inner Circle. Also, any cars that our customers have for sale will be featured here and you can see their car with photos on our website. In this category, we will run the descriptions for two-to-three weeks and, if there is no interest in that particular vehicle, it will be deleted the following week. Any new vehicles that we add will appear first, so the oldest listing would be at the end of this section.

If any of these vehicles perk your interest, email me personally - denniskirban@yahoo.com - for more information and photos.


If you have a tip or a discovery that you found that works on your Turbo Regal, drop us an email giving us the details so we can pass the info on to our readers. Remember, even with my knowledge, I don’t know it all. Simply email me at - denniskirban@yahoo.com


ALL GM (Including Buick Turbo Regals) -

Here is an inexpensive kit that includes everything you need when you replace the rear brake shoes.
This kit has everything you need for both rear brake drums.

In many cases, due to age you may break some of the springs when you go to remove them to replace the brake shoes.

This kit will virtually fit any GM car that has rear drum brakes, including all the Buick Turbo Regals.

NOTE - You may also be interested in these related parts - #7218 Stainless Braided Brake Hoses (3) Kit, #7459 Reproduction Complete Brake Lines (7) Kit and #7189 Reproduction Brake Proportioning Valve.

An excellent replacement item for any brake restoration.

7698 - All GM (Including Buick Turbo Regals) -
GM Brake Drum Hardware (26) kit - $8.95

Here is a link to this Hardware Kit on our website:

1984-1987 G-Body (Including Buick Turbo Regal - except for GNX wheels) -

More and more Turbo Regal owners are starting to restore their cars, since the values of original Turbo Regals is on the increase.

One visible small part is the unique style grey valve stem caps that were used on all the 1984-1987 Turbo Regals, except for the GNX.

These are the correct looking valve stem caps for the T wheels and the Grand National wheels. These are not correct for the GNX wheels.

If you have an original spare tire in your trunk, you can check that valve stem cap and the design will look identical to the caps pictured here.

These are the correct style. We did however had to paint them grey to match the original color.

Each car uses 4 valve stem caps for the wheels and 1 for the spare. Our set includes 10 caps, which gives you 2 full sets.

An excellent replacement item for any exterior restoration.

7700 - 1984-1987 G-Body (Including Buick Turbo Regal - except for GNX wheels) –
Correct Looking Gray Valve Stem Caps (10) Set - $46.95

Here is a link to this set of Valve Stem Caps on our website:

1986-1987 Buick Turbo Regal -

Over a period of time, the original manifold air temperature sensor may fail to read accurately, due to age or dirt.

This manifold air temperature sensor gives the computer a reading of the air temperature as it enters the turbocharger. The sensor is capable of reading between -40 and 266F. This is the sensor that mounts in the factory elbow off the air cleaner assembly.

NOTE - You may also be interested in these related parts - #6719 Black Powder-coated Aluminum Mass Air Flow Pipe, #7045 Rebuilt Original AC DELCO Mass Air Flow Sensor, #7054 Reproduction Air Flow Duct (from turbo to MAF sensor/air cleaner), #7480 FACTORY STOCK MAF - TinMan Cold-Air Intake Kit, #7481 3″ LT1 - TinMan Cold-Air Intake Kit, #7482 3.5″ LS1 - TinMan Cold-Air Intake Kit, or #7483 WITHOUT MAF - TinMan Cold-Air Intake Kit.

Another excellent engine restoration item.

7697 - 1986-1987 Buick Turbo Regal -
Aftermarket Manifold Air Temperature Sensor - $15.95

Here is a link to this Air Temperature Sensor on our website:

1986-1987 Buick Turbo Regal -

These are the hoses that connect the vacuum lines to the vacuum block.

It takes 3 different sizes of the vacuum hoses to complete the set.

If you are buying either of our reproduction new billet vacuum blocks, it’s best to replace the 5 rubber hoses, since the originals may be cracked. Hoses may also split when you attempt to remove them.

Because the material is inexpensive, we only offer a set of 2 complete sets (10 hoses), so you will have a spare set.

NOTE - You may also be interested in these related parts - #6796 Stock Vacuum Block or #6797 Vacuum Block with extra vacuum fitting for vacuum brakes.

Another excellent engine restoration item.

7695 - 1986-1987 Buick Turbo Regal -
Vacuum Block Replacement Vacuum Hoses (10) Set - $6.95 / set
NOTE - 2 sets of 5 hoses

Here is a link to this Vacuum Hoses Set on our website:

1984-1987 Buick Regal (Including Turbo Regal) -
Powder-Coated Glossy Black

Original bolts between both hood hinge brackets and both hood shock brackets are prone to rust over the years.

We offer a set of 14 replacement powder-coated glossy black bolts. You only need 12 for the noted application, and we include 2 extras.

We purchase brand new OEM bolts, then have each bolt individually powder coated with a high glossy finish.

NOTE - We sometimes we have good used hood hinges, which have also been powder coated in a high gloss finish. If you are interested in the powder-coated glossy black hood hinges, email - denniskirban@yahoo.com.

NOTE - You may also be interested in these related parts - #7680 - Hood Shocks Reproduction Bolts (4) Set, #6700 STOCK STEEL Hood Gas Shocks (2), or #7343 Stock Steel Hood “BLACK CARBON FIBER” Gas Shocks (2).

Another nice finishing touch for any under-the-hood restoration, especially the back of the hood area, which can look neglected over time.

7694 - 1984-1987 Buick Regal (Including Turbo Regal) -
Powder-Coated Glossy Black
Hood Hinges and Hood Shocks Brackets Bolts (14) Set - $17.95 / set

Here is a link to these bolts on our website:


If you have any product ideas that would fit our Turbo Buick market that you would like to see available, email me direct - denniskirban@yahoo.com


Got any Turbo Buick parts you are not using? Why not cash them in for parts you need with a Letter of Credit. Simply email me a list - denniskirban@yahoo.com. Also, we are still buying dead or partially dead 1984-1987 Turbo Regals under $4,000 that are within 250 to 350 miles of our location.


We have heard from a couple people that have had problems with the links in our Inner Circle.

When we check the links, they work fine. However, if you are not able to be directed to the exact website page or internet site, you can "copy" and "paste" the link into the URL in your browser (such as Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, etc.) If it doesn't link in one browser, it may work in another.

Most people having problems are using Internet Explorer… If you are having issues with links, try another browser to see if it works.

You may need to "UPDATE" your browser to be use you are using the current version.


We have heard from a couple people that have viewed the photos on the website. Because these have to be low-resolution photos to work on the Inner Circle segments on the website, any photos of text don't appear clear when enlarged. This is a problem when you are trying to see numbers, such as those on the VIN labels or pages from Options booklet. Also, because of photo reproduction and computer screen variations, the colors may not be true to the actual product or photo.

If you would like to have us email you any photo at the higher resolution for viewing, just email us and we will email them to you. Be sure to be specific on which pictures you want to see - Reference Inner Circle date and photo number 1, 2, 3 or 4 - denniskirban@yahoo.com


Any inquiries concerning used parts, you must email me direct - denniskirban@yahoo.com - I will answer you. However, if I fail to answer you within 24 hours, please email us again. Since expanding into used parts, I get a lot of emails and sometimes I may forget your request or may not remember who requested the item.


I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. We have been having some of the warmest weather on record for this time of year.