3-9-11 Inner Circle

3-9-11 Inner Circle

Greetings Turbo Regal Inner Circle Members - 03-09-2011


Without a doubt from the original muscle car era, it's safe to say Corvette owners and Corvette companies have lead the way with a strong emphasis on date codes and original number matching cars and parts. This logic has trickled down to other American muscle cars, but it's the Corvette that has set the bar high.

I can sight one example in particular since we had a very big part in it about 25 years ago.

The GM cars from the 1960s all used Packard plug wires with date codes on them. The wires were all black with the wording "PACKARD TV R SUPPRESSION" followed by a stated quarter and then the year. An example would be "2 - Q - 64." It would repeat after a few inches. Each year had 4 quarters, so it would run 1Q or 2Q or 3Q or 4Q for every single year.

At the time, only one company was reproducing them and it was strictly for the Corvette in the proper lengths. You had to get permission from Packard to use their name. This company made a print wheel for all the odd numbers - 1Q and 3Q - for every year Corvette. By Corvette I mean they did the proper length plug wires for all the 1960s vintage Corvettes, etc. The plug wires sold retail for $85 to $100 a set!

Keep in mind, at the time you could by custom-made regular black plug wires for a V8 for $25 to $35. I knew GTO owners would never pay $85 to $100 for a set of standard black plug wires.

So, I found a local company and they were able to also get permission in writing from Packard to use Packard's name on the plug wires. To avoid confusion with the already existing company reproducing plug wires, I had print wheels made using even numbers for every year GTO 1964 through I think 1972 - 2Q and 4Q.

So, the other source had odd number quarters we did the even numbers. That works out to be about 18 print wheels in startup costs before you print your first plug wire. This is because you had to do two print wheels for every year from 1963 through 1972. Then you have to run several hundred feet of each year and quarter to make it cost effective.

Our company is even credited for getting these date-coded GTO plug wires done in the GTO Restoration Guide 1964-1972, written by Paul Zazarine and Chuck Roberts.

It is that same company today that makes the custom-cut grey plug wires we sell for the 1986-1987 Turbo Regals.

Our wires do not carry a date. Originally they were numbered for each cylinder, one through six. As you can see, to make these wires exact today would require 6 different print wheels before you begin the project. The original Turbo Regal wires still said Packard on them as well. However, they do not have any date code on them according to the Parts Identification and Inspection Guide Book I have.

PHOTO 1 - The most visible date code you may find under the hood of any 1986-1987 Turbo Regal would be the clear sticker on the original coil module. This is shown in our first photo as seen on the one on my personal 1987 Turbo-T. The code on the label on my cars' coil pack reads 2/19/87.

PHOTO 2 - We show page Section 2-7 of the 1987 Parts Identification and Inspection Guide. It explains how to break down the date code that is embossed on the bottom of the gas tank. It reads a little differently than most codes as it also shows what shift it was produced from. So, you have a single digit first to show the shift, followed by 2 digits, which indicate the day, then 2 digits to identify the month and a single digit for marking the year. Where double digits are possible they use a 0 if needed.

I'm not sure if you can read it, but listed as the vendor on that page, it says, "OLDSMOBILE."

PHOTO 3 - It just so happens our personal Turbo-T still has a bright silver original gas tank in it. You can clearly see the code in this photo. It reads "2 28 04 7." That stands for second shift, 28th day of April 1987.

In quick review, my built date on the doorjamb reads "05/87." My date code on the alternator reads "4287" for April 28th 1987. The code on the label on the coil pack reads "2/19/87." The gas tank code reads "28th day April 1987." So, you can clearly see from the codes we have discussed, they all correspond to being correct on our personal 1987 Turbo-T.

It's kind of like a puzzle figuring out the different methods GM used to code the various parts of the cars. They didn't use a standard code system throughout the parts. Not only did they sometimes reverse the days and years, but they sometimes added another digit to indicate during which shift it was produced!



We have always strived to be truthful about the origins of the new parts we sell. Some times we get questioned as to why something is advertised as being GM, but it is NOT in a GM wrapper or box.

Some parts come to us from the GM dealership in bulk, there may be 15-20 loose parts in a single bag.

At the other end of the spectrum is when we get some of the GM weatherstrips that are packaged in enormous sized boxes.

Although they come from an authorized GM dealership, often parts are not packaged in any GM labeled package.

PHOTO 4 - Here is a typical GM weatherstrip seal in a sealed tinfoil-looking bag. I have it positioned on the box it comes to us in. This box measures 7 feet long by 2 feet wide by maybe 5 inches deep. If we were to ship this to you in the original GM box, you would get hit with an oversize fee from UPS.

There are some cases were the aftermarket part is not only cheaper than GM but is superior quality. This is due, in part, because some of the replacement parts are made now and materials have come a long way since the mid-1980s.


I am sure you have noticed that gas prices now are starting to match V8 engine sizes! For example - 389, 400, 421, 426 454, 455, and so on. They need to be down around 327, or 350 or better yet 231!


All our alternator choices are now on our website with full descriptions, photos, and prices to make ordering easier.

Here is a link to all the alternator related items on the website -

Sale pricing expires on March 18th for our brand new 1986-1987 Turbo Regal 120A alternators, listed as Part #7315.

7315 - 1986-1987 Turbo Regal and 1989 Turbo Trans Am -
BRAND NEW 120 amp Alternator, Pre-tested with a 2-year Warranty
Regular Price - $169.95
SALE PRICE until March 18, 2011 - $154.95 (save $15)

7316 - 1986-1987 Turbo Regal and 1989 Turbo Trans Am -
BRAND NEW Custom-Built 200 amp Alternator, Pre-tested with a 2-year Warranty - $249.95

7317 - 1986-1987 Turbo Regal and 1989 Turbo Trans Am -
YOUR ORIGINAL 120 amp ALTERNATOR - REBUILT with all New Internal Parts Using YOUR Original Housing, Pre-tested with a 2-year Warranty - $139.95

To order part numbers #7318 or #7319, you must contact our office first to see if we can provide you with a date stamp prior to your built code. Our supplier has about 30 original housings.

7318 - 1987 Turbo Regal -
Original 120 amp Alternator Housing with our stamped Part #1101 349 120A on the Housing - $65.95 / kit

7319 - 1987 Turbo Regal -
Original 120 amp ALTERNATOR - REBUILT with all New Internal Parts and our stamped Part #1101 349 120A on the Housing - $189.95

7320 - 1986-1987 Turbo Regal and 1989 Turbo Trans Am -
UPGRADED Alternator Pulley Fan with Machined Spacer - $25

A long-time customer of ours wants to sell his pride and joy, GNX #545.

This GNX has 25,000 miles on it. It is slightly modified however, all the original parts have been kept. He has the jacket and GNX book. Owned by an older gentleman. GNX #545! This is just 2 from the end of production. I can supply additional photos and information. Serious inquiries only.

Priced to sell at $58,900. Email me - [email protected]

Here is a link to this car on our website -
http://www.kirbanperformance.com/product/43842/BUICK GNX #545 FOR SALE.html


We have heard from a couple people that have viewed the photos on the website. Because these have to be low-resolution photos to work on the Inner Circle segments on the website, any photos of text don't appear clear when enlarged. This is a problem when you are trying to see numbers, such as those on the VIN labels or pages from Options booklet. Also, because of photo reproduction and computer screen variations, the colors may not be true to the actual product or photo.

If you would like to have us email you any photo at the higher resolution for viewing, just email us and we will email them to you. Be sure to be specific on which pictures you want to see - Reference Inner Circle date and photo number 1, 2, 3 or 4 - [email protected]


Got any turbo parts you are not using? Why not cash them in for parts you need with a Letter of Credit. Simply email me a list - [email protected]

Also, we are still buying dead or partially dead 1984-1987 Turbo Regals under $4,000 that are within 250 to 350 miles of our location.


APRIL 16, 2011 - 9 am - 3 pm - 6201 Kellers Church Road, Plumsteadville, PA 18929

Once again we will be holding our annual Spring Open House, Saturday, April 16th - 9 am until 3 pm. This event happens rain or shine. Free Yum Yum Donuts are known to run out in a matter of a few hours. We will have an array of tagged and bagged used parts at bargain prices, as will Pete from his collection of parts.

Most of our in stock Kirban Performance Products items will be discounted 5%. Any items that we do not have that you pay for that day, we will ship to you for free.

As additional vendors let us know they are coming, we will update this information.

Already confirmed as vendors for our Open House -
- CUSTOM AUTO APPAREL - large array of licensed Buick apparel
website - customautoapparel.com / email - [email protected] / phone - 412-678-8402
- Pete Hoffman - Lots of used original parts
- WORLD of MOTORWORKS - Paul Castle will be coming again from Illinois.

SOUTHERN BUICK SHOOTOUT - April 22nd - 23rd, 2011
Held at Silver Dollar Raceway in Reynolds, Georgia.
For more information, contact Hartline Performance at 321-722-1563 or
click on the website below.

Starting Point is Temecula Creek Inn, Temecula, California
A great ride/event to honor and remember a truly wonderful individual, Molly.
Proceeds will benefit his daughter Brooke's college fund.
For complete information, check out the link to their event -

TurboBuick.com 2011 NATIONALS - MAY 11-14, 2011 - BURLINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA

This is one of the first major Turbo Buick events for the upcoming 2011 season. The dates are May 11th through the 14th. The first 2 days the event is held at Richard Clark's massive shop at 2557 Faucette Lane, Burlington, NC 27217, North Carolina, followed by 2 days of racing at the Piedmont Dragway, 6750 Holts Store Road, Julian, North Carolina 27283 (Greensboro.)

Our company is handling the vendor lineup and part of the program at Richard's shop on Wednesday and Thursday. This includes the free lunch that Richard provides under the ZDDPlus™ sponsorship.

You MUST REGISTER for the free lunch - email - [email protected]

Alky Control, Bob Bailey, Caspers Electronics, Cotton's Performance, Custom Auto Apparel, Dentmasters, GBodyParts.COM, Hartline Performance, Pete Hoffman, HR Parts N Stuff, Inc., Kirban Performance Products, Metco Motorsports Solutions, RJC Racing, and World of Motorworks.

The club has some big plans and special guests that will be coming and conducting seminars that were not there last year. Since the GS Nationals are moving to October this year, this gives you another major event to attend in the spring.

There will be a listing of events, hotels (discounts), vendors, seminars, etc. As information is confirmed, we will let you know.

For more exact information on race classes and other activities, go to -


Summit Motorsports Park, Norwalk, Ohio.
This is one of the longest running Buick events. Vendors and swappers welcome! Friday is time trials, Saturday is an all Buick show, and Sunday is race day open to all Buick powered vehicles and there also is a Quick 16 class with cash payments.
For more information, contact Roberta Vasilow - 810-655-8277
email - [email protected]
Bill Wills - 330-747-1029
email - [email protected]

Lebanon Valley, New York.
This is put on by the Northeast GS/GN chapter of the GS Club. They have 3 Race Classes - Quick 16, V8 and V6.
For more information, contact John Csordas at 518-794-7130 or 845-528-GSGN.

2011 BUICK PERFORMANCE GROUP - JULY 29th - 31st, 2011 - HEBRON, OHIO -

The Buick Performance Group event will feature the Turbo Buick "step children" the T-Types and Pontiac's unclaimed child the Turbo Trans Am. The event is at National Trail Raceway in Hebron, Ohio.

They have secured Scott Kelly to attend, as well as Denny Manner, Joe Guzek, Dave Roland, Ron Yuile. Denny has also contacted Tom Wallace in hopes that he will attend. The people mentioned have also contacted other retired Buick Engineers, including Mike Doble to have them attend. There will be displays and "tech" talks, so it should be very informative. I don't think there has ever been that many Turbo G-body Engineers in one place at one time. This is one event you do not want to miss this summer!

Information for the Event can be found here -


If you would like to see any of the Kirban Performance Products items listed on eBay, here is a link to our store and auctions -
http://stores.ebay.com/Kirban-Performance-Products-Inc_W0QQssPageNameZl2QQtZ km


Any inquiries concerning used parts, you must email me direct - [email protected] - I will answer you. However, if I fail to answer you within 24 hours, please email us again. Since expanding into used parts, I get a lot of emails and sometimes I may forget your request or may not remember who requested the item.


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