04-10-2019 Inner Circle

04-10-2019 Inner Circle

Greetings Turbo Regal Inner Circle Members 04-10-2019 –


The correct answer for last week’s Trivia Question is that the car is a 1995 Eagle Summit LX model. According to the label under the hood, it was made by Mitsubishi. The unusual exterior visual feature was on the driver’s side of the car. The driver’s side does not have a second door! It is a 3-door station wagon, something I had never seen before.

PHOTO 1 – In these two photos we show the passenger and driver’s side of this unusual mini station wagon. I did talk to the owner of the car, who is from Italy, and his English was not that understandable. The car is a manual shift. We did get a few correct answers to the question. Some that responded said that second door on the passenger door is a sliding door. I can’t tell from the exterior, if that is true or not. That is why the correct answer was it lacks a second door on the driver’s side.


This week’s Trivia question is based on a 1986-1987 Turbo Regal. All the 1986-1987 Turbo Regal models would have this part from the factory. Here are the clues. We sell a rear seat brace kit #1586 for $78.95. Once this rear seat brace kit is installed, the braces form an X pattern.

Something that Buick installed when the 1986-1987 Turbo Regals were built also forms an X pattern. Explain what part I am referring to that is found on every 1986-1987 Turbo Regal.

On a side note, part #1586 is something that every owner should have in their Turbo Regal. It’s getting tougher for me to think up trivia questions each week!

Your answer must agree with mine. Email your educated guess to me [email protected]


We just got in a package from Classic Industries with goodies for our upcoming Open House.

PHOTO 2 – We show just two of the Open House raffle items. Not bad for just $5 a chance. On the left is a new Zl1 Camaro and just behind it sits a McLaren. I am kidding! Actually, these cars were just in our building for detailing! The photo to the right shows the proper way to remove a factory Grand National rear spoiler. Buick never lined up all the studs by an access hole for easy removal. You can clearly see this 1986 Grand National I am dismantling had severe rust issues on the trunk lid. You don’t want to hire me to remove a factory rear spoiler from a mint trunk lid!


I have started to dismantle this one-owner 1986 Grand National parts car I purchased. I wish I was 20 years younger as it seems to be a lot harder to do now. I got the knowledge on how to remove the parts, it’s the energy to do it that I’m lacking.

I discovered a few things with this car. The owner had replaced all the bushings with the red ones which I assume are made by Energy Suspension maybe? The car appears to have the ATR 3-inch stainless exhaust system, which is still in nice shape. Mufflers are stainless with center-to-center inlet and outlet. Car does have the G80 code for Limited Slip.

I have no easy means to remove the drive train so I am open to offers on the turnkey drivetrain with rear intact, 4 tires, and clear PA title. Motor needs to be rebuilt as it leaks oil from every possible place it can leak. Motor is complete and totally stock. The body parts I am leaving on the car are junk. So, if this perks your interest, email me an offer. The key parts are the complete drive train, the desirable 8.5 rear, and to a lesser extent the ATR stainless 3-inch exhaust system. Email me [email protected] with your offer. Car is at our house and is not in our way so there is no hurry to remove it. Comes with a one-year-old AC Delco battery! Otherwise the car is gutted inside and out. What is your offer?


I have the following parts removed from the 1986 one owner Grand National. With our Open House coming up, it is the perfect time to submit your offer for me to consider. If I like the offer, the part will be yours to pick up at the Spring Open House. You must email me direct [email protected] with your offer and what parts below perk your interest. If I agree to your offer, payment would need to be made prior to our Open House. Whatever parts that are not bid on, I will have at the Open House with a price on it.

All the below items are driver’s quality except where noted!

A – The factory original paint, 3 piece rear spoiler no broken studs and end caps still attached to the angled corners. All 5 pieces are included. What is your offer?

B- I have 2 factory 1986-1987 Grand National wheels basically cores as they are in poor shape. What is your offer?

C- I have a complete front black bumper with everything intact minus the marker lights. It is straight has a steel reinforcement brace. This front bumper is very straight. What is your offer?

D – I have a complete rear bumper with everything intact it has the desirable aluminum reinforcement brace. Again this is very straight. What is your offer?

E – I have an average driver quality 1986 Grill. What is your offer?

F – The factory correct spare tire in very nice shape. The wheel is not rusty. What is your offer?

G – The factory console complete with diecast insert, console lid is very nice nothing busted or cracked with ash tray. The console does need a new appliqué. What is your offer?

H – I also have a fairly mint stock hood. It has no dents. It does have a few minor rust spots where paint has chipped of. As of this writing I have not removed the hood yet. It would include the factory hood pad which is at best ok condition. What is your offer?

J – Last but not least and this is actually close to show quality worthy. Plus I am 99% certain I got all the parts. This is the optional concert sound kit. Both lower door panels with armrests, very nice condition nothing worn or cracked etc. Both actual speakers with 12 inches of wire harness with each speaker. The radio plugs so you can match up which side speaker goes to which radio connector one side is green other is brown. This is show quality. What is your offer?

K -  For any 1984-1987 Grand National (black trim) I have a real nice 100% complete drivers side tail light assembly. Drives quality has one very small chip in the black plastic trim in the one corner. What is your offer?

Again, submit your offer direct to me [email protected] You have an opportunity to buy any of these large Turbo Regal parts prior to our Open House in May. This saves you shipping as I rather sell these items at our Open House or beforehand. This is the first time we have had a Turbo Regal to dismantle prior to one of our Open House events.


Not only do we have a super mint GNX for sale, but we also have an extremely nice original WE4 for sale. The WE4 we have owned twice and it is a National winner at the GS Nationals a few years back. Both cars will be at our event for sale unless either or both sell prior to the Open House. See details below and Photo 3 and Photo 4. Last year we had a Caddy V car for sale at our event.


We are selling GNX #206 for one of our long-time customers. While several GNXs can be found for sale on the internet, what separates this one from the pack is not only does it have the GNX book and GNX jacket but the trunk is full of everything associated with a GNX and all the documents back to the original owner in 1988. It is a 2-owner car. This GNX has never been advertised since the current owner purchased it in 1998.

It has been garaged with the wheels off the ground. Even the steering wheel was covered. Most unusual is that the little rubber bumpers are on both doors that came on the car when it was shipped are still on the car! I did not count them but Molly’s signature appears on a dozen or more items, including the GNX jacket. Car has 100% original paint and 100% stock. Front and rear fillers have just been replaced in the last 30 days.

The car still smells factory new. Mileage is 23,839 and original. Car has the latest PA inspection. It’s close to 100% perfect in every regard. The factory paint is outstanding, a term you seldom see used on a black Regal of any version. The price tag is $99,900. To help ease the pain, since I hold a license, I am open to consider any car or cars in partial trade. Trade value cuts down the sales tax bite and out-of-pocket money. Remember, a partial trade car need not be a Turbo Regal. It can even be more than one car. Buying this example eliminates any surprises that some of the other GNXs seem to have that are for sale. This GNX is one that can only advance in value. You can email me for more photos. My email is [email protected]

PHOTO 3 – We show various photos of this outstanding GNX.


The same day we took in the above GNX, we also took in a super mint WE4 from another customer. This WE4 is one of the very rare ones. It is a hardtop. I have owned this car twice. It also is a National winner at the GS Nationals several years ago. This WE4 has always been garaged and has 100% original paint. Mileage stands at 50,345. To be pristine, it needs front and rear fillers. Whoever buys this WE4 would get 10% off on any parts for the first 30 days.

This car is 99% stock. To be 100% it needs the catalytic converter put on and a factory correct oil fill tube and cap. The catalytic converter is in the trunk. We have the Window Sticker. What makes this WE4 unusual that is it has virtually every option. Most WE4 models had very few options. Options include power seat, power windows, power locks, EQ radio, power trunk release, tilt, cruise, delay wipers, factory alarm, limited slip rear, and concert sound II.

The first time we sold it, the car had 34,500 miles on it. I bought it out of Delaware. It then went to Tennessee. The next time we sold it the car had 41,700 miles on it. Back then I stated without any exaggeration that this is the best Turbo-T we have sold in the last 5 years. Richard Lasseter had appraised it for $16,800 back in 2001.

This is the WE4 Pete Serio and I went to Tennessee. This was the same day 911 attack happened. The seller sold this WE4 to me because he found a super mint brown Turbo-T. Few years later, I would go back and buy the brown Turbo-T from him as well!

This car is top notch. It needs a few very minor things to be 100%. If you have ever seen my white Turbo-T that I got $21,000 for, this car is nicer with less miles. This is one of the best of the best in a WE 4 model. The deal includes a 3-ring binder of info and documentation, which goes with this prime example. This is a Kirban Quality car that I have owned twice. Proof of this comes with the car as well as the Window Sticker and other information. This WE4 has never been advertised for sale since the current owner bought it from us in 2001.

This WE4 and GNX #206 will be at our Open House next month, if they have not been sold prior to this event.

PHOTO 4 - We show various views of this new arrival WE4 with 50,345 actual miles. Car has one of the best factory paint jobs you will ever see on a 30-year-old Turbo-T. For more photos, contact me direct [email protected]


We have an urgent need for usable 1986-1987 Turbo Regal steering wheel cores. Each acceptable core is worth a Letter of Credit of $100. Help us help others by sending us any acceptable cores you may have. The cheapest method to send them is by mail. Ship to Kirban Performance, PO Box 1199, Plumsteadville, PA 18949. Be sure to include your name, address and phone number.


Classic car enthusiasts know that it is sometimes difficult to reach an agreement with an insurance company on the value of a collectible car or truck. It is always better to agree on that value as soon as you arrange to insure it, rather than wait to argue it out when trying to make a claim. It is also a good idea to periodically re-evaluate the worth of your classic car or truck as the value will change as time passes.

ALS Appraisal and Litigation Services is the right choice to appraise your collectible vehicle for this or any other purpose. Get your Turbo Regal/Grand National appraised at 20% OFF at Kirban’s upcoming spring Open House event on May 4, 2019.

Contact - [email protected] Terry Shaw - 215-659-4947 - Fax 215-657-3409 - PA License #139808.

On a personal note, I have known Terry Shaw for over 35-plus years. He has appraised several vehicles for my son as well as my personal Turbo-T years ago.


Turbo V6 enthusiast Steve Saffier (who produced “The Dennis Kirban Story” on YouTube last year) is producer and host of a new automotive radio program broadcasting live every Saturday from 11am - 12 noon on 610 ESPN radio (the old WIP 610 am for those in the area.) The show talks about different aspects of the car world and Steve’s affinity for Turbo Regals and Syclone/Typhoons often is expressed in nearly every show.

You can tune in live or livestream the show at http://www.610espn.com from anywhere in the world.


If there are any tips or ideas you want to share with our readers, email me –[email protected]


Be sure to check out the large used parts we have removed from the 1986 Grand National. Your offer may be the one we accept and you can pick up at our Open House and avoid costly shipping. The bigger items we really want to avoid shipping so your offer may be the offer that works for us!


To get your Turbo Regal event for 2019 listed here, you must email me direct [email protected] Also send me a copy of the flyer promoting the event.

Saturday, May 4, 2019 - 9 am until 2 pm
6201 Kellers Church Road, Plumsteadville (Pipersville), PA

This event has no rain date. Gbodyparts.com will be coming to our event as a vendor. Contact him in advance for any parts you want him to bring. Their email is [email protected] year we are combining this event with Black Ice Details, a detail shop that shares our warehouse. We will have many raffle items from various vendors that have donated to our event. A few No Reserve Auction items and our usual M&Ms contest as well.Free coffee and Yum Yums donuts as usual, Yum Yums donuts seldom last past the first hour.

Vendors that have now donated raffle prizes include: Auto Legal Appraisals, Casper’s Electronics, Classic Industries, Cold Case, Gbodyparts.com, Max Performance, Mike’s Montes, Russ & Nancy, Spoolfool, and Yum Yum donuts. We expect to hear from others as the time draws closer.

Local motels would be in nearby Quakertown, which is about a 25-minute drive west of our shop location. They would include Quakertown Holiday Inn Express, Hampton Inn, Spring Hill Suites by Marriott, Quality Inn & Suites. There is also a Hampton Inn Warringtonsouth of us on Route 611 in Warrington.

From Willow Grove... North on RT 611 through Warrington, Doylestown and into Plumsteadville (you can take the RT 611 Bypass that goes around Doylestown - it exits back onto RT 611 north of Doylestown). Watch for a shopping center with a McDonald’s on your right. Go past that light at Stump Road and the Plumsteadville Inn. Make the FIRST left at the Shelly Funeral Home onto Kellers Church Road. Ours is the second office complex just a short distance down on the right. Our unit is at the back far corner. There’s plenty of parking, since most of the other companies are closed on the weekends.

From Quakertown... Take RT 663 east and it will become RT 313 heading east (away from the turnpike.) You will cross through the major intersection at RT 309 in Quakertown. Go through Quakertown (it will take several sharp turns). RT 663 becomes Route 313 Dublin Pike, past Dublin. Make a left onto Stump Road, left onto RT 611, FIRST left at the Shelly Funeral Home onto Kellers Church Road. Ours is the second office complex on the right.
NOTE - If you are using GPS, you may have to use “Pipersville 18947” as the town.

Saturday, MAY 25, 2019 – Gates open at 8 am
Lebanon Valley Dragway, 1746 U.S. Route 20, West Lebanon, NY

Participants in all Buick classes must be Buick-Powered. For more information, call 518-794-7130 or call 914-477-6068 (ask for John)

MAY 23, 24, and 25, 2019
Richard Clark’s Garage & Piedmont Race Track, Burlington, North Carolina

This event is held at Richard Clark’s Garage in Burlington, NC and the nearby Piedmont Race Track. For more information and a list of their program, go to Turbobuick.com and scroll down to Turbo Buick Nationals 2019 for up-to-date information. Here is the link to this event.

SUNDAY, JUNE 2, 2019 - 9 am until 3 pm -
Bates Nut Farm, Valley Center, CA

According to Mike Bernard (Spoolfool fame), this event is the second largest gathering of Turbo Buicks in the Nation. Eric Brown and Mike Bernard deserve a lot of credit for putting this west coast event on every year. The event runs from 9 am until 3 pm. Vendors will be on hand and they will have many items for their raffles. They will update the info shortly for 2019 on the link shown below.

Here is a link to their website.

FRIDAY& SATURDAY - JUNE 14 & 15, 2019
Quaker City Motorsports Park, 10225 West South Range Road, Salem, OH 44460

For more info, contact John Csordas 914-447-6068 [email protected] or Denny Moore 330-647-3615 [email protected] - www.quakercitymotorsportspark.com

Cecil County Dragway, 1916 Theodore Road, Rising Sun, Maryland

This will be the 23rd year. Host hotel Information:Comfort Inn located just off exit 100 on I-95.Call 410-287-7100 and mention Northeast GS/GN Club for special pricing. For more info, contact John Csordas 914-447-6068 [email protected] or Jim Chaudrue 215-266-1052 [email protected]


Good news - We now accept Classified Ads in our weekly Inner Circle emails. Over the years several customers have asked about placing an ad in our weekly Inner Circle.

Here are the options and the costs.

Ads can be from any individual or company. It needs to be automotive related, meaning it does not need be specifically Turbo Regal related. It can be for something for sale or something wanted.

Maximum number of words is 125 words, which is about 7 to 9 lines of copy. No photos. You can list a website. We recommend you state your name, phone number or email, a price, and your location in your ad.

The cost for 2 consecutive weeks is $25. The cost for 4 consecutive weeks is $40. You save $10 with the 4-week plan. No changes can be made to your existing running ad. You can only run one ad at any given time. We will have a code system at the end of your ad, so we will know what week number your ad is to run - 2 or 4 weeks.

It can be an ad for something for sale or an ad for something you are looking for.

We have never missed a single week since we started the Inner Circle email format in 2009. It’s something I enjoy doing and I just always seem to have enough material to write about.

Our weekly Inner Circle reaches over 3,300 members every Wednesday direct to their inbox. The Inner Circle also appears every Wednesday on our website with the related photos. Your ad would be visible to both groups of readers. So, the exposure to your ad is well over 3,200 potential buyers.

Ads submitted properly by the previous Sunday would appear that next Wednesday in the weekly Inner Circle. Ads must be submitted by email to - [email protected]

Payment by credit card must be done by phone to our office 215-766-1611 x 0.


WANTED TO BUY - NOS Buick parts for 1987 Buick Turbo Regal. Will you be at Dennis Kirban’s Spring Open House on Saturday May 4th and have some NOS Buick Turbo Regal Parts you are thinking about selling? If yes, please contact me by phone or e-mail and let me know what you have as I may be interested. I am a CASH buyer and will be at the Kirban Spring Open House in person. I am not a dealer and parts are not for resale. Any parts I purchase are for my own small personal Buick parts collection. Pease call and leave message or e-mail. All calls will be returned. Jason Maxfield 416-399-7265 or [email protected] Falls, NY 14304. Thank You. Week 2 of 4.

FOR SALE - 1986 Grand National with 2.200 miles on rebuild. Rust free- car was repainted by previous owner about 12 years ago and still looks great. Have original rims if needed. Rebuilt by Anderson Performance in Md with upgrades. A/C and heat works fine. Tilt, posi rear, power windows, digital dash. Needs nothing, runs great. Asking $25K. Contact Fred 410 599 8002 Baltimore Md– Email - [email protected] Week 2 of 4.


If you are not able to see the Buick Rare Parts section at the end of this Inner Circle, it is because you are not an Inner Circle member, but instead are reading this on the website. You must subscribe to see the Rare Parts section each week. It would go directly to your inbox every Wednesday afternoon. It is FREE, probably one reason why nobody complains about what I write about. Simply email- [email protected] to get our weekly Inner Circle email.

The Buick Rare Parts section is only viewed by those that subscribe. Subscription is free, so complaints on what I write are nonexistent!


NOTE- If you email us and do NOT get a timely reply, be sure to check your “SPAM” folder. Some emails do not go thru.

If you need to email us, use - [email protected]


Here is the information on our credits for cores.


POWERMASTER BRAKE UNITS. Unit must be complete. We will issue you a Letter of Credit for $150 for each acceptable core. We currently will not buy any powermaster units outright, only Letter of Credit towards parts.

TURBO CORES must be the 1986-1987 Turbo Regal stock turbo. They must be complete. We will issue you a $150 Letter of Credit for each acceptable core.

If you ship to us, the post office is the cheapest method. Pack the item(s) with a note with your name, address and phone number. These are the only 2 items we are currently accepting as cores.

MAIL - Ship to Address -
PO BOX 1199

UPS - Ship to Address -
6201 Kellers Church Road


If you need technical information, it’s best to email - [email protected] rather than call us. We will do our best to answer any technical questions within 24 hours. Please remember I have very little knowledge of the mechanical workings of the engine.


Eileen drop in GN hat and tumbler here


A must-have reference booklet for any 1987 Turbo Regal owner. This is a high-quality GM Licensed reproduction of the original Owner’s Manual.

This is a great addition to your reference material.

7843 - Reproduction GM Licensed 1987 Buick Owner’s Manual - $19.95


If you have any product ideas that would fit our Turbo Buick market that you would like to see available, email me direct - [email protected]


Got any Turbo Buick parts you are not using? Why not cash them in for parts you need with a Letter of Credit. We also may buy your new or used parts. Simply email me a list [email protected]

Also, we are still buying dead or partially dead 1984-1987 Turbo Regals under $4,000 that are within 250 to 350 miles of our location.


We have heard from a couple people that have had problems with the links in our Inner Circle.

When we check the links, they work fine. However, if you are not able to be directed to the exact website page or internet site, you can "copy" and "paste" the link into the URL in your browser (such as Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, etc.) If it doesn't link in one browser, it may work in another.

Most people having problems are using Internet Explorer. If you are having issues with links, try another browser to see if it works.
You may need to "UPDATE" your browser to be use you are using the current version.


We have heard from a couple people that have viewed the photos on the website. Because these must be low-resolution photos to work on the Inner Circle segments on the website, any photos of text don't appear clear when enlarged. This is a problem when you are trying to see numbers, such as those on the VIN labels or pages from Options booklet. Also, because of photo reproduction and computer screen variations, the colors may not be true to the actual product or photo.

If you would like to have us email you any photo at the higher resolution for viewing, just email us and we will email them to you. Be sure to be specific on which pictures you want to see - Reference Inner Circle date and photo number 1, 2, 3 or 4 - [email protected]


Any inquiries concerning used parts, you must email me direct - [email protected] I will answer you. However, if I fail to answer you within 24 hours, please email us again. Since expanding into used parts, I get a lot of emails and sometimes I may forget your request or may not remember who requested the item.


Our Spring Open House is now about 3 weeks away. Be sure to check out our listing in this issue of the big Grand National items we have available. These items are open for your offer. If I agree to your offer, that item will be yours to pick up at the Open House. These items must be paid for prior to our Open House. This locks you in for that item and saves you any shipping costs, etc. Any large parts that go unsold prior to our Open House will be priced to sell at our event.